So let’s get this straight…
- The Broncos met with Flores, but John Elway didn’t take it seriously, showing up late AND DRUNK.
- The Giants knew they were hiring Brian Daboll, but gave Brian Flores an interview anyway.
- Bill Belichick accidentally texted Congratulations to the wrong Brian.
- The Raiders did not even bother to call Flores.
- The Jaguars did not even bother to call Flores.
- The Vikings did not even bother to call Flores.
- The Texans did not even bother to call Flores.
And yet, with all of those seemingly legitimate gripes against all of those named above, Flores decides to name Stephen Ross as a defendant in his suit.
The ONLY man in the list above who actually DID hire him. Note to Flores: Your boss tried to give you a $1.5 million bonus, plus we woulda had Joe Burrow right now. You blew it, so don’t blame Ross. (That’s a big if. I doubt very much that Ross seriously sat down with Flores to offer bonuses for losses. I doubt Tom Brady was ever on a yacht anxiously awaiting a meeting with Brian Flores.)
PERHAPS Flores has a gripe against the teams above who did him wrong, but he is barking up the wrong tree by going after Ross, the man who hired him as a black coach.
In a million years, I never thought I would take Stephen Ross’s side on anything, but Flores’s ingratitude has made me go to Team Ross for the first time ever.
If Ross needs to lists examples of why he fried Flores, he can simply read my site here. Misguided timeouts, trading All-Pro players, refusing to adjust at halftime, trying to pass the ball 40 times in a windy, icy game while your RBs are killing the opponent…so many reasons.
I’m simply blown away by the number of folks who stick up for Ross against Flores in this entire scenario. No coach is perfect and Flores has his fair share of faults as this site has chronicled ad nauseam. That said, Individual #1 is a back-stabbing, uninspiring, unethical, short-sighted, privileged, billionaire buffoon who has not done a single thing right since he bought the team; who has turned the franchise into a laughing stock for almost 2 decades and who has shown over and over again how little he cares about winning football games (volunteering us repeatedly for London games, avoiding advantageous 1pm home game starts, etc.)…While individual #2 has just putting together the 1st consecutive winning seasons in 20 years for the franchise, who’s players would go through a wall for him, who’s team didn’t quit on him despite a 1-7 start, who everyone that knows him asserts he has the highest moral character and is all about hard truth and WINNING, and who comes from the most difficult circumstances possible (Brownsville section of Brooklyn) and who’s overcome unbelievable obstacles to rise in the coaching ranks despite the color of his skin. Like I said, how anyone would think individual #1 is the person to defend here and individual #2 is at fault just blows me away. I guess when you all watch Superman movies, you cheer for Lex Luther and make excuses for him while shitting on Superman.
I don’t know what it is, but when I see the word “buffoon” associated with Ross, first I laugh and then you sorta kinda agree with that assessment. Lots of folks call him all kinds of names, but many use buffoon, and it’s somewhat fitting.
I have rarely defended Ross in the past 13 years he’s owned the team, and you know I lambaste him far worse than I’ve criticized Flores’s coaching. Everything Ross does hurts the Dolphins. He is blind to the harm he causes.
I’m just bothered here in this case because the Giants really did Flores wrong. Apparently they led him into thinking the interview was legit. It wasn’t.
When Ross interviewed Flores, however, it WAS legit. In my opinion, Flores owes Ross SOME degree of loyalty. Not that Ross is correct in this mess, but he certainly didn’t screw with Flores like the Giants and Broncos did. Three teams interviewed Flores for HC positions. Ross hired him; two others did not.
I honestly think its too early to make any definitive conclusions about this situation. We dont know what is true and what is not. IF Ross asked FLores to dump games on purpose, then FLores is within his rights as a human to reject this as it is immoral. I do understand that this sort of thing does occur all the time but that does not place an obligation on Flores to acquiesce. FLores also does not owe Ross any loyalty if he was asked to do an immoral action under the presumed threat of losing his job. Make no mistake, if Flores’ accusations are true, Ross in completely in the wrong. If they are all concautions by Flores, then he is dispicable and deserved to lose his job and never coach again.
You’re right. We don’t know, and never will, who said what. I would say the truth is in between. The entire sports world was talking about Tank for Tua in 2019, and it’s unrealistic to think that Ross or Flores never mentioned it. It must have come up a million times. That being said, did Ross order Flores to lose games? That part apparently has witnesses, and Flores’s legal team will bring them forward.
Wanting to a lose a game, in my book, is NOT a capital offense. This is no different than a playoff team who rests all their starters in Week 17 and 18. Are you purposely trying to lose? No.
But are you trying to win? Hell, no.
Teams are allowed to half-ass it in some games so that they are better prepared for future games. It’s a solid coaching strategy and it sets you up for the bigger picture success.
Lol… this is coming from the same guy that recently wrote:
I won’t be a hypocrite. I have called Brian Flores unqualified and I’ve pointed out plenty of his wrong decisions. But after two winning seasons in a row, his good and his potential far outweighed the bad. He is indeed qualified. I stand corrected. He is qualified, but he is also unemployed. Thanks to Stephen Ross.
Like I said before, “don’t quit your day job.”
Phil! Thought for sure you’d be trolling us sooner than this, but welcome. Flores was a good coach. I give him that. But it seems he’s going after Ross, the very man who hired him. I just think that’s kinda low.
“trolling us?”
Boy, you sure do think you represent the thoughts and feelings of any and everyone who occasionally reads this site don’t you? One minute you say:
“History shows that whenever Stephen Ross takes a back seat and lets the players focus, we win. When he inserts himself into things, we lose.”
And now:
“If Ross needs to lists examples of why he fried Flores, he can simply read my site here.”
Tell me something.. do you like the way Ross is handling things, or not? In your opinion, is Flores a good coach, or not?
Damn you seem confused!
You try to be an instigator and end up confusing yourself, not me.
When Ross takes a back seat and stays out of the news, the Dolphins do better. But when he makes himself at the forefront of something (such as bribing his own coach to lose games), the Dolphins suffer. Pretty clear, with no ambiguity.
Is Floes a good coach? I’d say yes. Not perfect, but the guys played hard for him.
As a coach. As a man, I think he’s being a little ungrateful right now.
When someone questions what you write, I see you use slander to disqualify what they said.
Now, there is no such thing as a “black Coach.” A coach is a person who just happens to be white, black, hispanic, or asian. That’s why you never hear the term – “white coach.”
And why does a lawsuit Flores named Ross in concerns you anyway?
“As a man (Flores), I think he’s being a little ungrateful right now. He is barking up the wrong tree by going after Ross, the man who hired him as a black coach.”
Hmmm… I wonder if you thought the same thing about
Eric Snowden?
Ross’s Statement in reply to Coach Flores: https://www.nfl.com/news/dolphins-owner-stephen-ross-responds-to-brian-flores-allegations-nfl-s-expected-
And now Jacksonville has the best coach who is available this whole off-season. Back to our regularly scheduled program, Ross is it the foolish adult who should’ve pounced on Doug Peterson five minutes after he fired Florez.
Exactly, it is unbelievable he hasn’t learned and is going to go the same route he always does
Ross is the ENTIRE reason the Dolphins are again in the position they are in! No Coach! Again, who is at the root of the problem? Ross. Grier isn’t far behind him….we need a new owner and let him clean this house up! Grier has got to go as well…there isn’t any reason to keep him…your dog could draft better picks with his paws. I’m disgusted! Ross has ruined this franchise. He needs to go…or croak.
Well, let’s just say Grier had a decent draft in 2021, so he’s not the total culprit here. I think many franchises and owners know how to rebuild. You quietly tank, trade solid players for future draft choices, and suffer through a year or two with bad seasons. It’s normal. But to come and and bribe your coach to lose? That’s nutty, even for Ross. I’m not saying that happened, but it is what Flores alleged, and he says he has witnesses. At this point, I’m sorta kinda leaning toward Ross’s side, because I just don’t think he is stupid enough to make some kind of formal bribery offer. As awful as he’s been, in this case I don’t think he’s THAT awful to bribe someone. But I could be wrong. This is Steve Ross, after all
We won’t agree on Ross bec I do feel he would go that low, bec he’s the kind of wealthy guy that feels he can do anything if he flashes the money out there. Grier is just a minority must on Ross’s hiring ladder. He’s filling a quota.