In a single week, we lost Ryan Tannehill and Jay Ajayi, which are the injuries that received the most notoriety of course.
Tannehill’s knee bothers me in retrospect, because he should have had surgery last year instead of holding on to the ridiculous notion of “I’m not getting surgery yet, just in case we make it the Super Bowl and it will be healed by then so I can play.”
Ajayi’s concussion scares me more, because of the way the league will step in now. The NFL cannot order Tannehill to get his knee fixed, but they CAN order us to shut down Ajayi for as long as they wish. Our team doctors might clear him, but the league says no. Jay himself wants to play, but the league says no. When any symptoms are gone and Jay is 100% healthy, the league says no. The league is THAT over-concerned with concussions nowadays.
And, of course, the Dolphins notoriously play by the rules. When Tom Brady has a concussion, the Patriots do not report it. They hide it and let Tom play. He pretty much admitted it today. He said his concussions are “nobody’s business.” It just proves how wrong and how arrogant he is. The RULES state that concussions ARE INDEED the league’s business. By rule, you cannot keep quiet about your concussion symptoms. It just shows you what the Patriots think of the rules.
With an ACL, you know when your player will come back. With a concussion and the fraidy-cat caution the NFL uses, you never know.
Ted Larsen, a seasoned guard who’s tough as nails and who I really looked forward to seeing this pre-season, is out too. It looks like he’ll miss significant time. Losing a gaurd might not scare you, but it should. We already have Mike Pouncey not at practice (And I don’t think we should count on him this season. It’s just his history). So that means we’re opening the season with Steen and Ubrick, as rookie Isaac Asiata doesn’t appear ready yet from what they are saying.
We have the very frightening prospect of opening the season without 2/5 of our starting line, without our QB, and without our RB. Nothing we can do about it except hope the next guy steps up.
In addition, I’m keeping my eye on the Reshad Jones injury situation, as something isn’t quite adding up. Mysteriously, he got hurt away from practice, so they put him on the temporary Unable to Perform list. But now he’s back at practice, but not participating in full yet. I think the injury might be more serious than they’re letting on.
But the scariest thing of all: The Dolphins might be forced to sign Kaepernick or Jay Cutler or Johnny Manziel. Good God, please sign RG3 quick and end those other rumors!!
Cutler is honestly prolly the best option. He knows gase’s system and didn’t play terrible under him in 2015. He would prolly be better than Matt Moore would be.
Start Moore and sign Tebow for backup. Stick a fork in Tannehill, he’s done.
Draft a QB every year in the 1st or 2nd rd until ya get it right!
Interesting, I had forgotten about Tebow. All he does is win, and we know Ross loves him. I’m not opposed…
It might be a longshot but I know Ross loves Tebow. Remember he honored (gator) Tebow on the Hurricanes home field.
And yes he did win and would provide a real running threat along with Ajayi. And our receivers can catch anything!
I mean c’mon Tebow doesnt even play football anymore
Might as well sign Lebron or Curry to play for us while you are it .
Neither does Thad Lewis, but his name is mentioned daily along with Kaepernick and Cutler.
He’s playin baseball, he’s in good shape. And that’s what preseason is for.
the thing about drafting a QB every year is look at the jets … For the past couple years they’ve drafted a lot of QBs high and all they have to show for it is an absolute shit show
The Jests haven’t picked a 1st rd QB in 4 years…..
I said high rounds
Petty was a third
Hackenberg 2nd
Geno Smith 2nd
Petty was 4th rd
So what is your advice……give up?
My advice is you pick up a QB whose ok enough and build a team around them … instead of wasting a pick every year on QBs draft skill players and Line and defense… and look at last year Thill and Moore aren’t franchise QBs but they led the team to 10 wins and a playoff apperance because the surrounding cast played well
Texans haven’t had a QB in years but still made the playoff and won a game last year…. Alex Smith is not a great QB but Chiefs made the playoffs and won a game
Btw i 100% agree with you it is a QB league but if you can’t find a QB get other players and they will lead you to the playoffs and then who knows maybe you develop a QB or can trade for one but don’t keep focusing on a QB or you’ll end up like the Redskins who trade half their team for a QB who ended up being a bust and another lower prospect ends up being their franchise QB
or more…
New England is already doling out passes for the 2018 AFC Championship game to season ticket holders.
YIKES!
JT. One of my all-time favorites.
All class. Good guy
Not really. He’s 3.6 mill behind on his divorce settlement/child support to his ex …….who is Zach Thomas’s sister. That’s why Zach Thomas didn’t attend his HOF induction.
Anonymous….can you cite any proof of this? Not doubting you, but would like to study this case.
Cutler was the best choice, not saying he will play great but him and gase have a relationship and he knows the playbook.
The teams better with Tanny and Moore than Moore and any of the other options if you think otherwise you are crazy. Either way if he’s out I bring in the best option to win and definitely continue to keep taking shots in the draft not necessarily in the first round but whenever a good opportunity arises.
Hopefully Ajayi gets better fast at least there’s time. He wouldn’t be doing much in the preseason anyway. Larsen getting hurt sucks but maybe Asiata will get a chance to rise to the occasion.
Cutler is on! It’s funny how all the sports stories on Moore are about how great he is with the exception of him getting knocked out of two games last year. What they don’t mention is how many turnovers the guy has always had!
Didn’t he have five turnovers to end our season last year?
Thank god the Dolphins aren’t making us go a whole season of watching that!
Agreed Miami has a tough schedule this year unlike last year, Moore wouldn’t last half the season.
What makes u say that? I don’t ever remember Moore being knocked out of a game .
He takes way to many big hits and he is kind of old, idk it’s just a feeling I have.
That’s exactly it you need two QB’S to be safe so wishing Tanny out is retarded…
Well, either Cutler or Moore are far better than loser TannePuke!
Go Fins!!!
You may get your wish. All that I know is that Tanny is far better than cutler kap rg3 manziel etc…so him going down does not make us better. Pisses me off as he probably would have had a great year with the guys around him and a better D.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on Tanny being far better than ANYONE!
“Tanny is far better than cutler kap rg3 manziel etc.”
FlyerFinFan lives in the Twilight Zone.
Listen up Tanny fans…Miami has never, ever, went to or been in a playoff game with Tannehill as it’s starting quarterback…ever!
So cut it out with comparing Tannehill to any quarterback. Too many people are hoping, wishing, praying, and deluding themselves in thinking Tannehill is going to carry the Dolphins to the promised Superbowl…forget it!
Why because you guys know better than the actual pro’s? Cracks me up. Cutler retired for a reason…. Now don’t get me wrong I’m hoping that he can do something here as the situation is far better than what he had in Chicago but I was also expecting a great year from Tanny. He was rolling until his injury last year Moore didn’t get them in Tanny put them in position plus it’s a team game. Yes I said it team game…and the team hasn’t been the best in the past never mind the shit coaching…
@FlyerFinFan
Franchise QB’s win no matter what. They raise their teams up to another level. Look at the SB QB’s almost always franchise QB’s. It is a QB league and TannePuke stunk. I’ve never seen a worse QB get 78 consecutive starts.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Sure QB’s matter but if the team and coaching is shit around them they don’t win super bowls its not automatic as you say. Shit oline too but magically when they were all healthy the QB play improved as well. Tanny was finally placed into a recipe for success and guess what? He won some games and got them into the playoffs. Is he the best? Hell no but far from the worst.
You simply don’t get rid of the guy until you’ve found someone better or end up like the browns and jets year after year. I’m just glad that you guys aren’t running things.
@FlyerFinFan
Well, that feeling is certainly mutual!
Of course no playoff wins in 20 years means the guys running things STINK as does TannePuke! But he’s as good as gone now anyway. Its over.
PRAY FOR NEW OWNERSHIP!!
“Tanny was finally placed into a recipe for success and guess what? He won some games and got them into the playoffs. ”
Yep, like I said, you’re living in the Twilight Zone.
If I remember correctly, Tannehill was stuck at his usual eight (8) wins last season when he got hurt and in stepped Matt Moore to finally guide the Dolphins into the playoffs.
” I’m just glad that you guys aren’t running things.”
Well, look at it this way, if I or Jay were running things, you would’ve never seen Tannehill in a Dolphins football uniform.
Yeah and we’d probably have gone through weeden, manziel, etc….second coming of the browns haha! At least they tried to groom a qb that was half decent. Superstar no but they are very difficult to find you guys think it’s as easy as going through a mcdicks drive through….
Nah, we had 2 staring us in the face that we made the wrong decisions on. Drew Brees over Culpepper and Matt Ryan who transformed a 4-12 team immediately into the playoffs and pretty much a playoff team ever since, instead of Jake Long gone.
And if we had taken either one we would’ve also had a bunch of high draft choices we wasted on Henne, TannePuke, Pat White, etc….
Hindsight is 20/20! You can’t blame Tanny for those decisions at least he is decent enough to groom many others don’t even play a year in this league…
@FLYERFINFAN
I’m saying the opportunities for a franchise QB are/were there. We were very close to 2 of them. Its not nearly as tough as you make it sound if you make good decisions.
And as far as Tanny being “decent enough to groom” we’ll have to disagree on that! A total waste of time and money IMO.
Jay, we clearly dropped the ball by choosing Joey Harrington, Trent Green, and Duante Culpepper over Drew Brees. That one stings.
But I disagree with your love of Matt Ryan. He’s had some strong statistical seasons but always finds a way to leave his fans heartbroken.
After watching him hand a free Super Bowl to the Patriots, his legacy as a choker is secure.
You’re nuts. He’s transformed bad teams into the playoffs and is the 2nd best QB in the league and a sure fire HOFer. His career is not done by any stretch and he doesn’t come near Marino as far as choking goes!
Please don’t tell me your happy we picked Jake Long gone over Matt Ryan or I’ll lose any respect for ya! LOL
Awards and honors[edit]
4× Pro Bowl selection (2010, 2012, 2014, 2016)
AP NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2008)
PFWA Offensive Player of the Year (2016)
PFWA Offensive Rookie of the Year (2008)
NFL completion percentage co-leader (2012)
3× Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week winner
Most consecutive NFL games with 200 plus passing yards [71]
Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week winner (2008)
NFC Rookie of the Month (October 2008)
Sporting News All-Rookie Team (2008)
NFC Offensive Player of the Month (November 2010, September 2012, September 2016)
Rookie of the Year by Sporting News[72] (2008)
ESPY Award: Best Breakthrough Athlete[73] (2009)
NEXT Athlete Award (ESPN the Magazine) (2009)
NFC Player of the Month (November 2010)[74]
Most regular season wins by a quarterback in his first five seasons: 56 (tied with Russell Wilson)[75]
Falcons franchise records[edit]
Ryan with the Falcons in 2009.Only Falcons quarterback to lead the team to an 8-0 start [76]
Most wins in a regular season by a starting quarterback: 13 (2010 and 2012)[77]
Most passing touchdowns in a single season: 38 (2016)[77]
Most passing yards in a single season: 4,944 (2016)[77]
Fewest interceptions in a regular season by starting quarterback — 7 (2016) (16 starts)[77]
Best career quarterback rating for starting quarterback: 93.6[77]
Most 4th quarter comeback wins in a single season: 5 (2010) (tied with Steve Bartkowski)[77]
Most career wins: 85
Most career pass attempts: 5,064
Most career pass completions: 3,288
Most career passing yards: 37,701
Most career passing touchdowns: 240
Seriously, I’ll never say that Ryan sucks or Jake Long was a better option. But I also won’t say that Ryan ins a champion.
As far as his career being over, I predicted this right after the Super Bowl: The Falcons and Ryan will not recover from such a devastating loss. They’re a 6-10 team this year.
Good thing you’re not a betting man….
MOST Super Bowls handed over as free gifts to the Patriots.
(tied with Pete Carroll and Kyle Shanahan)
One?
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/jason-taylors-ex-wife-katina-sues-over-34-million-in-alimony-9551674
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Matt Ryan compares very favorably over Dan Marino.
Just sayin’
Matt Ryan 2nd best QB in the league? Seriously? He’s had every advantage given to him and when he finally had a chance to win a bowl game he did everything in his power to blow it. Coaching was definitely at fault but he didn’t help the matter. Marino did so much more with a lot less….
How many playoff games did Marino blow with INT’s??
He had half of the offensive weapons that Ryan has had. Ryan also had a running game…
Are u kiddin me? Marino had great weapons…..and Tony Nathan was a super RB……but keep makin excuses for Marino! LOL
DollFans have created an entire Mythology of Marino to explain his failure. They say he had no defense, no running game, no supporting cast. It sounds good on paper, but it’s just not true. Fortunately, the Cold, Hard Football Facts worship in a different temple, one where raw numbers and reality reign as Zeus and Apollo. They easily debunked the four biggest myths perpetuated by the cult of Dan Marino.
Myth: Dan Marino had no defense.
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Marino played 17 seasons in the NFL. Twice, he had the luxury of playing with the league’s No. 1 scoring defense: his rookie year of 1983 (15.6 points per game), and again in 1998 (16.6 points per game). That’s a pretty enviable ratio in a league that had 28 and then 30 teams in Marino’s playing days.
Consider this: Terry Bradshaw played 14 seasons in Pittsburgh and won four Super Bowls. The famed Steel Curtain defense that he played with led the league in scoring just twice in those 14 years. Of Bradshaw’s four title teams, only one boasted the league’s best scoring defense.
In Marino’s record-setting 1984 season, the Dolphins had the No. 1 scoring offense in football and the No. 6 scoring defense (18.6 points per game). The 1990 Dolphins, meanwhile, boasted the league’s No. 4 scoring defense, surrendering just 15.1 points per game.
There’s no doubt Marino played with some poor defenses in his day, but that’s the price of playing in the league 17 years. But the Cold, Hard Football Facts show that he also played with several defenses more than strong enough to win Super Bowls.
Myth: Marino had no running game.
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Marino joined Miami at a time when it had a reputation of being the best ground team in football. In fact, the year before Marino was drafted, the Dolphins made it all the way to the Super Bowl on the strength of a great running game and great defense.
In Marino’s rookie year, 1983, the Dolphins racked up 2,150 yards on the ground. In 1984, Marino set single-season records with 48 touchdowns and 5,084 yards passing. The Dolphins still managed 1,918 rushing yards and averaged 4.0 yards per carry.
It would be disingenuous to say that the Dolphins were a great running team later in Marino’s career. Of course, much of that can be attributed to too few rushing attempts and a misguided faith placed in Marino’s arm.
But consider this: The New England Patriots went 17-2 and won the Super Bowl while averaging a woeful 3.4 yards per rushing attempt. The Dolphins averaged more than 3.4 yards per rushing attempt 14 times in Marino’s 17 seasons. In other words, Marino’s Dolphins ran the ball more than well enough to win Super Bowls.
Myth: Marino had to carry the Dolphins himself.
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Few quarterbacks in NFL history have been surrounded by more talent than Marino.
In his 17-year career, Marino played with 55 players named to the Pro Bowl. Marino himself was named a Pro Bowler nine times. That’s a remarkable 64 Pro Bowl players, or nearly four for every season Marino spent in the NFL. Four times in Marino’s career, the Dolphins boasted five or more Pro Bowl players in a single season. Compare that with New England’s two Super Bowl teams, which had a total of just five Pro Bowl players.
Marino also had the rare luxury of joining a team that had played in the Super Bowl the year before he arrived. He also played most of his career for one of the winningest coach in NFL history, Don Shula.
Shula has quite a resume. Working with quarterbacks Bob Griese, Earl Morrall and Johnny Unitas, he led the Colts and Dolphins to five Super Bowls in 15 years. Over the next 13 seasons, working with Marino, he appeared in just one more Super Bowl. He lost.
If any quarterback in NFL history walked into an ideal situation in which to win a Super Bowl, it was Dan Marino.
Myth: Marino was a big-game quarterback.
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Want to know the real reason why Marino never won a Super Bowl? Sadly, the answer sits with Dan Marino himself.
Simply put, Marino did not elevate his game in the playoffs. In fact, his played dropped off quite noticeably. Marino has a career regular season passer rating of 86.4. His postseason passer rating was just 77.1. He played in 18 playoff games, and won just eight of them.
In his one Super Bowl appearance (a 38-16 loss to the 49ers in Super Bowl XIX), Marino completed 29 of 50 passes for 318 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs. It adds up to a weak 66.9 passer rating. One wonders what might have happened had his two Super Bowl drives that ended in interceptions ended in touchdowns instead.
Remember that 1998 Miami team that had the best defense in football? It made the playoffs, but Marino failed to hold up his end of the bargain. The season ended in the second round of the playoffs, with Marino coughing up two interceptions against Denver and posting a passer rating of just 65.5. Yet another opportunity for Marino to win a Super Bowl tossed into the hands of an opposing defender.
In fact, Marino threw at least one interception in 13 of his 18 career playoff games. He threw two or more interceptions 10 times. The Dolphins went just 1-9 in those 10 Marino multi-interception playoff games.
So, DollFans, if you’re looking for a reason why Miami never won a Super Bowl in the 1980s or 90s, look no further than the faded Dan Marino poster still taped to the ceiling over your bed.”
Nathan was a good player but not a bell cow RB. Better suited to the passing game which was their flaw as they couldn’t run when it counted in the playoffs. This forced them to be one dimensioal. In comparison the falcons can run or pass pressure is off Ryan. He also has a receiver who may end up being one of the best.
It could be argued that Marino made his receivers whereas the team around Ryan made him. I have never heard comments that Ryan is the best pure passer ever but routinely here this about Dan. Perhaps they should have won a bowl but don’t forget they lined up against possibly one of the best teams ever in that 49er team. Then the running game and D was never both there yet Dan still kept them competitive. It’s still a team game….
Matt Ryan singlehandedly transformed a bad 4-12 team into an 11-5 playoff team his 1st year. And kept them there. Marino never transformed a bad team he inherited a great team……
Marino threw 2 INT’s in that SB and many INT’s in his playoff games……as Omar Kelley said Marino just wasn’t that good. Ryan’s had a similar career except better….and he’s not done yet…..
man do you crack me up I can’t even comment…nothing against Ryan he’s not a horrible QB by any means but now he’s in the same mold as Montana, Brady, Rogers, Marino etc…wow. You do realize that Marino was ranked top 10 of all time by his peers, coaches, media, management, etc…right?
Mentioning Marino in the same sentence as Brady and Montana is MORONIC! Marino was a huge choker, could never perform on the biggest stage and he is no longer considered top 10 except by some delusional kool aid drinkin Dolphin homers. Brees, Brady, Rogers, both Mannings and Matt Ryan have all passed him by in addition to the guys that already were in front of him. Marino was a local hero but many old Finfans even say Griese was better.
You do realize that it’s easier to throw the ball these days compared to the past right? Stats are skewed. Also when Marino played they knew he had to pass and he still was able to do it. Put him on the 49ers and you’d see a few bowls guaranteed…
Your the one putting Ryan in the top ten by suggesting that he’s better than Marino because anyone with knowledge agrees that he’s top ten and one of the best passers ever. I love Griese but he had a running game and D he didn’t have to pass that much. Proof is when the back up comes in nothing changes. Marino went out and the Fins still haven’t recovered …..
I don’t think Marino would’ve won a SB on the 49ers. He just played bad in the playoffs, period. If I was going into play a SB, Marino wouldn’t be in my top 30 list. He was a great passer in the regular season but wasn’t a winner when it counted. Great players play their greatest in the biggest games. Sad to say Marino was the opposite of that.
I’m not one to make excuses for Marino, and he certainly had a bad game in Super Bowl 19 vs. the 49ers. But Reggie Roby’s 20-yard punts killed the Dolphins that day worse than anything Marino did. Not to mention the fact that the 49ers essentially had a home game for that Super Bowl, as it was played right down the street from them. That Super Bowl loss hurt, but the WoodStrock Super Bowl hurt worse because we had that game won several times and kept blowing it.